There is this great debate about the place where the line is between anti -Semitism and the legitimate criticism of the government of Israel. Where is this line for you? The Israeli government has criticized, and Netanyahu criticized, as you know. Israel’s criticism and how the war is not anti -Semitic. But it begins in the shade, and it appears in a group of different methods. When you use the word “Zionist” for the Jews – you are a Zionist pig – you mean that you are a Jewish pig. There was an incident on the New York subway and a group of people got the demonstrators or anything else, and they said: “All the Zionists are launched.” When he was the head of the Brooklyn Museum, who was a Jew, but the Brooklyn Museum had nothing to do with Israel or take positions in Israel – her house is stained with red paint. This is anti -Semitism. And many slogans that people use either or slide into anti -Semitism. A person who bother me more is genocide. Collective genocide is described as a country or a group tries to eliminate a full race of people, a full nationality for people. Therefore, if Israel is not provoked and Gaza is just invaded and shot on indiscriminate Palestinians, Ghazan, this will be the genocide. This is not what happened. In fact, the opposite happened. And enthusiasm is much closer to the genocide than Israel. And I told Netanyahu, I told him what I thought: You must reduce the number of victims and make sure to enter help and things like this. This is the difficulty: Hamas has a different way to wage war, to use the innocent Ghazan as human shields. They put rockets in hospitals. They put their military supplies in schools. What is supposed to do the country when the missiles are launched from school? So Israel was in a more difficult situation because of what Hamas did. This is not that Israel is above criticism. Of course not above criticism. But Hamas – I am sorry, it’s important to me. I feel deeply about it. No one blames Hamas. I mean, news reports every day showed that the Palestinians suffer from harm and killing. I see pictures of a young Palestinian boy without a leg, or a boy committed to my head, there is a little girl, like 11, 12, crying because her parents were killed. I am in pain. But in the news, they never mentioned that Hamas used the Palestinian people as human shields. Thus, when these demonstrators come and accuse Israel of genocide, I said, “What about Hamas?” They even do not want to talk about Hamas.
Another thing. This is very important. The Jewish people were the subject, at least in my opinion, for the worst genocide ever. In the book, on the day they obtained Kiev, the Nazis asked 33,000 Jews to line up through a trench, naked abstraction, and shot all of them. Every day Auschwitz kills 20,000 people. My family was killed from a place called Chertin in western Ukraine. This was evil and terrible. It is empty of opponents to name this genocide. You criticize it? certainly. Israel says you went away? certainly. And you know what to do? It increases anti -Semitism, because they make Israel and the Jewish people like monsters, and they are not.
I will say, it is a word used by a special committee for the United Nations. please. The United Nations was hostile to Israel, against Israel. [Daniel Patrick] Moinhan was like me. He became famous when in 1976 [it was 1975] They tried to pass a decision, Zionism is racism. Saying that the Jewish people should not have a state when every other people have a state of anti -Semitism, and the old dual standards, by reality. And international organizations, I have no faith as fair. These international organizations themselves, when terrible things continue in Darfur, China or anywhere, appear in the other direction.
I am curious about how to consider how to address the protests, taking into account the context of what you just said. The Trump administration has just announced that it withdraws $ 400 million of financing from Columbia University, while giving the reason “unavoidable violence, intimidation and anti -Semitic harassment.” I wonder what you do from that. Colombia did not do enough. I criticized them. And believe me, I believe in freedom of expression, I believe in the right to protest, as you read in my book. My career started protesting the Vietnam War. I say to some people, “If you are of your life, I would protest something or another.” So I understood it, and I love it, and it is related to America. But when violence and anti -Semitism remain, colleges had to do something, and many of them did not do enough. They ignored their shoulders, looked at the other direction. Colombia between them. So what did they do? They took $ 400 million. I try to find out what they took. Do they take money from cancer research, or Alzheimer’s disease? What is $ 400 million? All students can harm. Students who go there who have nothing to do with protest, students who may protest peace, or Jewish students who were victims of some of these protests. So I think we should see. What worries me is that this is just $ 400 million in Tram’s typical style: randomly, without looking at its influence.
What do you do at the end of last week when Ice, Mahmoud Khalil, a Colombia graduate who is a Palestinian, is an activist and green card holder, and was one of the few participants in the campus protests last year to publicly determine the identity of himself. It is clear that Trump has achieved well in his pledge in his campaign, and he is scheduled to be deported because of his participation. I don’t know all the details yet. They are trying to go out, and there will be a court case that will be determined. If the law is broken, it must be deported. If the law does not break and invoke peace, then it should not be deported. It is easy and simple.
